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I want to find a proper device to measure 5G Extreme High Frequencies

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I have been suggested to buy the HF-ANALYSER HF38B.

I am not an expert in this sort of devices but it is mention that the top peak read the this analyser can measure is 2.7Ghz while the standard 5G Broadband expected in my town is 26Ghz which it makes it 10 times higher.


Can anyone please advise a suitable device for 5G Frequencies measurement.


Kind regards

Alejandro

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Shaun A Kranish Principal
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It looks like 5G is rolling out and utilizing a wide range of frequencies.  Some of those frequencies are 12 Ghz and below.  For this we are recommending the Safe and Sound Pro 2 Meter.

Another good alternative to that meter would be the Acoustimeter AM10.  However, the AM10 does not have as wide of a frequency range.  Its specs only go up to 8 Ghz whereare the Safe and Sound Pro 2 goes up to 12 Ghz.

Neither of these meters will cover *all* 5G (5th Generation - not to be confused with 5Ghz - 5G does NOT stand for gigahertz) frequencies.  They will cover some, and likely be able to show you when 5G is present.  But these meters may not be able to actually measure all of the frequencies emitted by 5G antenna systems.

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Rod Berg
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No that's not true.  Much of the info in this thread is not true.  First of all, 5G is not 60 Ghz or any one frequency.   Carriers will be using many different frequencies which will change from city to city and they start at 1 Ghz. The vast majority of those frequencies used will be under 6 Ghz and any of the meters can measure that.  Some higher frequencies will be used.  In Europe it seems they have settled on 28 Ghz max.  The highest frequency I've seen so far is 39 Ghz.  The top dollar meters measure up to 40 or 50 Ghz so they will measure well over 99% of all 5G signals.  They do have plans to use frequencies up to 80 Ghz but that will only be used for close proximity device to device transmissions.  They can't use frequencies that high for standard signals through 5G antennas because they simply don't travel far enough.  In Minnesota where I am from only Verizon will use frequencies that would require an expensive meter.  They have 2 frequencies, one is 27 Ghz and the other is 39 Ghz.  Every other carrier will only use frequencies under 8 Ghz that can be measured with a cheaper meter.  Many other markets will be similar.  I have looked at frequencies being used around the world and I have not seen higher than Verizon's 39 Ghz in Minneapolis.  Some inexpensive meters measure up to 8 Ghz and that will detect most of the 5G signals out there.  If you want to detect the higher frequencies you have to spend like $1,400 or more.  I hope this clears things up.  I am getting a cheap meter and I think it will be fine.  You don't need to detect every signal.  You just need to know where signals are getting through and where you need to shield.  Either get rid of your WIFI or get a router guard.  Shield your home with Faraday and get some anti-radiation clothing.  Don't buy 5G service for your phone but also understand that 4G and EMF signals can be dangerous too.  With a meter and a little preparation it won't be that hard to protect ourselves.        

It sounds like you have no idea what the frequency will be. Whether someone buys 5G for their phone, doesn't do anything to protect anyone from EMF radiation. "It won't be that hard to protect ourselves?" I think that's a terrible attitude. We don't want or need any human cooking!!! Our only option is to not have Wi-fi? We need to fight against this insanity! Can you show me an EMF detector that measures up to 60Ghz, please. Faraday and anti radiation clothing? Gimme a break! Time to wake up and fight people! They have done studies with 5G on animals and the findings are awful.
Some studies: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=5G+testing+on+animals&t=ffab&ia=web
"We the undersigned,more than 180 scientists and doctors from 35 countries, recommend a moratoriumon the roll-out of the fifth generation, 5G, for telecommunication until potential hazards for human health and the environment have been fully investigated by scientists independent from industry."
https://ehtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/Scientist-5G-appeal-2017.pdf

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Vanko

Thanks Justin for the useful info, thanks Grand, for the list of meters capable to measure above 8GHz. 
I'm determined to buy a 5G meter detecting frequencies at least to 40GHz, and I checked so far the specs for
- EME Guard XS 40 GHz whose sopecification says:
"Lower detection limit 5 V/m". This makes it useless for health concerned individuals like me, because this equals to 66.3 mW/m2 (66300 uW/m2). And as the most of us know, even values above 0.1 uW/m2 could be harmful! (according to building biology standards)
Next I checked was :
- Wavecontrol: WaveMon RF-60 but its specs are talking mainly about electric fields. Does anyone know more about its RF capabilities?

Generally, I'm searching for a reliable 5G meter, with digital display and detecting RF signals at least as low as 0.1uW/m2

Can anyone help with such meter?

Does anyone have an experience with successful detection of 5G frequencies with the meters working up to 8GHz?

Thank you all!

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Rod Berg
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Thanks Justin for the useful info, thanks Grand, for the list of meters capable to measure above 8GHz. 
I'm determined to buy a 5G meter detecting frequencies at least to 40GHz, and I checked so far the specs for
- EME Guard XS 40 GHz whose sopecification says:
"Lower detection limit 5 V/m". This makes it useless for health concerned individuals like me, because this equals to 66.3 mW/m2 (66300 uW/m2). And as the most of us know, even values above 0.1 uW/m2 could be harmful! (according to building biology standards)
Next I checked was :
- Wavecontrol: WaveMon RF-60 but its specs are talking mainly about electric fields. Does anyone know more about its RF capabilities?

Generally, I'm searching for a reliable 5G meter, with digital display and detecting RF signals at least as low as 0.1uW/m2

Can anyone help with such meter?

Does anyone have an experience with successful detection of 5G frequencies with the meters working up to 8GHz?

Thank you all!

We need detectors that can measure up to at least 60Ghz. 

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SEGMENTS

It is Alarming here we are moving into the next Generation . the beginning of the Radiation Expose. we Must stop it Cut the DEMAND and the NEED it will grow into a Monster. Yup a Good detector so we can Increase awareness to stop it.

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Tek Geek

a dumb question. Can we use a 5G capable phone and some app to read radiations from a tower. Specially a verizon 5G phone. Would it work. Since what i am reading from all the posts that verizon is using 39GHz. So there new 5G phones are 39GHz capable. I guess.

any thoughts about this idea. Then we can show how much radiation verizon is putting out on verizon own phone.

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Michael Smith

we’re all asking the same question but a thought on the matter: if a phone is 5g enabled should it not be possible to create an app/use the phone itself to measure signal strength and range? 


I confess I’m not the guy that would be able to do it, but it seems like an obvious possibility and there is more than enough awareness to find the right people and know how to make it happen? 

social media call out/campaign to find the right people?

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Michael Smith
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a dumb question. Can we use a 5G capable phone and some app to read radiations from a tower. Specially a verizon 5G phone. Would it work. Since what i am reading from all the posts that verizon is using 39GHz. So there new 5G phones are 39GHz capable. I guess.

any thoughts about this idea. Then we can show how much radiation verizon is putting out on verizon own phone.

same thought / 2hrs behind you 

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Shaun A Kranish Principal
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It looks like 5G is rolling out and utilizing a wide range of frequencies.  Some of those frequencies are 12 Ghz and below.  For this we are recommending the Safe and Sound Pro 2 Meter.

Another good alternative to that meter would be the Acoustimeter AM10.  However, the AM10 does not have as wide of a frequency range.  Its specs only go up to 8 Ghz whereare the Safe and Sound Pro 2 goes up to 12 Ghz.

Neither of these meters will cover *all* 5G (5th Generation - not to be confused with 5Ghz - 5G does NOT stand for gigahertz) frequencies.  They will cover some, and likely be able to show you when 5G is present.  But these meters may not be able to actually measure all of the frequencies emitted by 5G antenna systems.

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Shaun A Kranish Principal

This one is more of a detector - not really a meter.  It is only to show when levels have reached EXTREMELY high power densities - enough to cause immediate noticeable harm to a great number of people.  It is for workers who work on this equipment, to help avoid them getting in the beams and frying themselves.

So I don't think a detector like this would be very useful at all except for measuring extremely high levels - being very very close in proximity to antenna.  For biological purposes - health purposes - like we always measure for in accordance with Building Biology standards - this type of detector doesn't cut it.

But it does serve to show people that this stuff is dangerous - and if it were not dangerous why would safety detectors like this even exist.  This isn't the only one - there are many RF safety detectors for antenna workers available on the market.

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Shaun A Kranish Principal
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Hello.  Is that a serious comment re "the industry has been banned from making tech to detect this level of radiation"?  If so, that's serious and very concerning.  I too wish to purchase a EMF monitor capable of measuring 5G.  

I haven't heard any rumors like that.  I haven't heard of any pushback against manufacturers of meters.  They are catching up.  I think the higher frequencies are currently more expensive to measure.